que: Y a los "grandes" que les paso, Chivas y America|||America and Chivas are always candidates also no matter what. Pachuca and Toluca are the team that have won the most titles in torneos cortos thats why. Mexican league is competitive look what they do at Libertadores Sudamericana.|||Because they buy good players and the trainers know how to get along with the players. All of their players meet expectations. Unlike with America and other teams. America buys very expensive and good players, but once they arrive to America they play like crrrrraaaapppp. Once they leave the team, they play like before (Insua). Is this the Cuahus curse????|||Cuz they are the ones who regularly play the best they keep their nivel throughout the league which makes them candidates for the title|||They have a great and solid team...most of them know each other well and they just work great together Chivas and America have just fallen in the level they use to be|||Idk they just dont try as much as toluca and pachuca to win anymore|||idk but i doubt they will win|||cause they have pretty much the same squad and they know how to buy players